Comments on: Is Washington Emboldening Iran’s Anti-Semitism? http://www.philmorgan.org/2010/05/05/is-washington-emboldening-iran%e2%80%99s-anti-semitism/ Truth IS. Deal with it. Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:26:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Phil http://www.philmorgan.org/2010/05/05/is-washington-emboldening-iran%e2%80%99s-anti-semitism/comment-page-1/#comment-196 Phil Tue, 18 May 2010 15:10:16 +0000 http://www.philmorgan.org/?p=703#comment-196 Hi Jim, Sorry for the delay in approving your comment and replying. It's just been busy-ness; the blog has been unattended to for a number of days. The fact that Abram, as you rightly point out, was called out of Ur of the Chaldees before the Jewish people existed is really not relevant. The fact is the covenant that God made with him encompassed the entire nation that would come from him - the language of the covenant is all about his offspring, not him alone as an individual. The Jewish nation rightly see him as the starting point. The child of promise is Isaac - not Jacob but his father. If you are simply referring to the name "Israel" that was given to Jacob at Peniel, that is not the beginning of the covenant, but the reiteration of it. And the promise of blessing clearly runs throughout the Bible for God's chosen people, the nation of Israel to the present day. The preservation of the Jews in the diaspora would not have been possible but for the hand of God; the modern state of Israel is a miracle. The Balfour Declaration of 1917, and the re-establishment of the Jewish State in 1948 are signal points of history, and one of the clearest evidences of God's continuing faithfulness to His covenant. The return of Jews to their homeland over the past 50 years is, again, miraculous. I am not suggesting we must blindly support everything Israel does. They are as capable of wrongdoing as any other government in the world - including our own governments. But the unrest in the Middle East today, make no mistake about it, is rooted in the hatred against the Jews. Your view of Israel v the Palestinians is very one-sided, and one fed by the popular media. Again, without suggesting Israel are never at fault, as a legitimate government they have legitimate security concerns for their people. The terrorism by rockets and suicide bombers on a daily basis from Hamas and other groups call for a vigilant response. There's a very interesting video of Mosab Hassan Yousef - son of one of the leaders of Hamas, who has converted to Christianity and denounces Islam. He, as himself a former Hamas soldier who was imprisoned for his activities, says that when Israel have killed innocent civilians, it has been by mistake. Unlike the anti-Israeli terrorist groups who do so intentionally. Check out the interview for yourself at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOOQtMgLB3M&feature=related You recall the international outcry after 9/11. No-one in their right mind could suggest that the USA should not have responded by (1) defending herself, (2) seeking to bring the terrorists to justice, and (3) imposing whatever security measures necessary to protect US citizens. But when Israel does the same, she is denounced and vilified. Finally, re the USA and God's blessing. As I suggested in my post, there are a whole host of things America is doing that we should only expect to draw the anger of God. If as a nation we turn away from our historic stand with Israel, it will be just one more thing. Phil Hi Jim, Sorry for the delay in approving your comment and replying. It’s just been busy-ness; the blog has been unattended to for a number of days.

The fact that Abram, as you rightly point out, was called out of Ur of the Chaldees before the Jewish people existed is really not relevant. The fact is the covenant that God made with him encompassed the entire nation that would come from him – the language of the covenant is all about his offspring, not him alone as an individual. The Jewish nation rightly see him as the starting point. The child of promise is Isaac – not Jacob but his father. If you are simply referring to the name “Israel” that was given to Jacob at Peniel, that is not the beginning of the covenant, but the reiteration of it. And the promise of blessing clearly runs throughout the Bible for God’s chosen people, the nation of Israel to the present day.

The preservation of the Jews in the diaspora would not have been possible but for the hand of God; the modern state of Israel is a miracle. The Balfour Declaration of 1917, and the re-establishment of the Jewish State in 1948 are signal points of history, and one of the clearest evidences of God’s continuing faithfulness to His covenant. The return of Jews to their homeland over the past 50 years is, again, miraculous.

I am not suggesting we must blindly support everything Israel does. They are as capable of wrongdoing as any other government in the world – including our own governments. But the unrest in the Middle East today, make no mistake about it, is rooted in the hatred against the Jews.

Your view of Israel v the Palestinians is very one-sided, and one fed by the popular media. Again, without suggesting Israel are never at fault, as a legitimate government they have legitimate security concerns for their people. The terrorism by rockets and suicide bombers on a daily basis from Hamas and other groups call for a vigilant response.

There’s a very interesting video of Mosab Hassan Yousef – son of one of the leaders of Hamas, who has converted to Christianity and denounces Islam. He, as himself a former Hamas soldier who was imprisoned for his activities, says that when Israel have killed innocent civilians, it has been by mistake. Unlike the anti-Israeli terrorist groups who do so intentionally. Check out the interview for yourself at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOOQtMgLB3M&feature=related

You recall the international outcry after 9/11. No-one in their right mind could suggest that the USA should not have responded by (1) defending herself, (2) seeking to bring the terrorists to justice, and (3) imposing whatever security measures necessary to protect US citizens. But when Israel does the same, she is denounced and vilified.

Finally, re the USA and God’s blessing. As I suggested in my post, there are a whole host of things America is doing that we should only expect to draw the anger of God. If as a nation we turn away from our historic stand with Israel, it will be just one more thing.

Phil

]]> By: Jim Garlick http://www.philmorgan.org/2010/05/05/is-washington-emboldening-iran%e2%80%99s-anti-semitism/comment-page-1/#comment-195 Jim Garlick Thu, 13 May 2010 01:46:25 +0000 http://www.philmorgan.org/?p=703#comment-195 In light of the above how do you account for the recent appointment to the High court Elena Kagan a lesbian jew by Obama - this makes four jews on the high court and no protestant christians. Will they defend the christian values of mainstream USA? I doubt it. The Genesis quote above was given to the gentile Abram, there was no Jacob yet hence no Israel and no children of Israel. Does the blessing extend to ashkanzi jews who adopted judasim and have no genealogy to Abraham and who are the main promonents of zionism and instigators of the world's largest prison camp called the Gaza Strip. I don't think we should as christians so pro jewish when they are obviously mis-treating the palestinians through etnic cleansing. If we considered aparthied evil why don't we condemn the aparthied wall in Israel. We should not as new covenant believers promote one race above another. Ask yourself if the USA who gives billions to Israel plus weapons and other things is the USA blessed? It is increasingly becoming more anti-christian, through legistlations and political correct laws, promoted by the ACLU and it is economically a basket case and cannot get out of it trillions of debt, it has millions on the bread line, and a great deal of personal freedom has been lost since the twin towers came down. Jim In light of the above how do you account for the recent appointment to the High court Elena Kagan a lesbian jew by Obama – this makes four jews on the high court and no protestant christians. Will they defend the christian values of mainstream USA? I doubt it.
The Genesis quote above was given to the gentile Abram, there was no Jacob yet hence no Israel and no children of Israel. Does the blessing extend to ashkanzi jews who adopted judasim and have no genealogy to Abraham and who are the main promonents of zionism and instigators of the world’s largest prison camp called the Gaza Strip.
I don’t think we should as christians so pro jewish when they are obviously mis-treating the palestinians through etnic cleansing.
If we considered aparthied evil why don’t we condemn the aparthied wall in Israel. We should not as new covenant believers promote one race above another.
Ask yourself if the USA who gives billions to Israel plus weapons and other things is the USA blessed? It is increasingly becoming more anti-christian, through legistlations and political correct laws, promoted by the ACLU and it is economically a basket case and cannot get out of it trillions of debt, it has millions on the bread line, and a great deal of personal freedom has been lost since the twin towers came down.
Jim

]]> By: Kurt Michaelson http://www.philmorgan.org/2010/05/05/is-washington-emboldening-iran%e2%80%99s-anti-semitism/comment-page-1/#comment-191 Kurt Michaelson Wed, 05 May 2010 17:59:47 +0000 http://www.philmorgan.org/?p=703#comment-191 America stands in terrible judgment because of the President's insensitive treatment of Prime Minister Netanyahu and Israel as a whole. It's too bad that Genesis 12:3 is not in the forefront of their minds more often before they speak or act. America stands in terrible judgment because of the President’s insensitive treatment of Prime Minister Netanyahu and Israel as a whole. It’s too bad that Genesis 12:3 is not in the forefront of their minds more often before they speak or act.

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